Why Saying No Helped Them Scale From Freelancers to Global Clients
In this episode of The Founder Files, we’re joined by Angelo Zanetti, co-founder of Elemental, a custom software development agency that’s quietly grown into a global force serving clients across South Africa, Europe, and the UK. Angelo takes us through the 20-year journey from two self-taught devs to a 25-person team, navigating everything from messy pivots to failed products and bold repositioning. But beneath the surface is a rare founder philosophy: simplify complexity, serve with excellence, and grow by focus; not by fluff.
We dive into:
• How Elemental grew from freelancers to a full agency
• Their bold move from subcontractors to owning the client journey
• Defining their ideal clients and niching down
• Why they shut down a growing marketing division to focus
• Winning international clients without meetings
• How AI is shifting dev work—and how they’re adapting
• What founders should know before building their own product
This episode is packed with real founder insight, from one of the most grounded voices in the dev world.
Too Long; Didn't Listen? Here's what to look for:
00:00 Introduction
04:26 Elemental’s business model explained
06:14 Elemental’s reach: Market & scale today
08:07 How Elemental attracts overseas business
09:51 The role of AI in Elemental’s workflow
13:11 The hidden complexity behind clean code
17:29 Why clear positioning changed everything
24:12 Why Elemental pivoted and what It changed
27:46 How Elemental identified their ideal clients
29:42 Refining our ICP to scale smarter
41:47 What changed after we repositioned
48:59 Why cutting marketing made us more profitable
54:54 Lessons from a failed side hustle
01:09:06 What’s the most pressing obstacle in this phase of the journey?
01:16:18 What does the future look like for Elemental?
01:23:30 With hindsight in hand, would you make the same decisions?
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